Why vegans are unhealthy

The best place to look for such sources is from this blog post that I wrote that contains various sources for you to use, when you scroll right to the bottom. I would like to add more points in your comments veganism is ethinocentric and disrespectful to other cultures, a new form of colonialism.

I see that many of you guys are from America or Canada, maybe these people are common where you live but they are almost non-existent in other areas, my country for example. They are not conquering the world as they say.

I can write more with better grammar, now I am in a hurry to contribute with the site if you adms wish. Thanks for your comment.

Fortunately people get people like us who are willing to fight back and show the world that veganism is, as you say, pure bullshit that is impractical in its worldly environmentally, human health, animal welfare, food sovereignty applications. As an admin I have the ability to edit your comment to be better grammatically than you first wrote. But these militant vegans make me want to eat a tortured dolphin! They are so militant and dogmatic in this moral argument of killing.

Or when a human tortures an orange tree picking off an orange. Or murdering potatos and onions by pulling them out of the ground! Humans are omnivores, that is a fact. You vegans resort to things like supplements, and things made from soy and other crap that tastes terrible to get your health up to par. That was sooo informative Karin thanks! And this is a really good article.

We really need to push more the soil, and how grazing animals are part of the climate solution, not the problem. So if you are vegan for climate reasons that is not the way to go! Walter Jehne says it all when he discusses this, saying that we need to encourage the soil sponge, using animals regeneratively, so that fungi are enouraged, and roots grow deeper to absorb more water, rather than run off. Carbon is sequestered this way, and if the temperature of the soil is lowered then we can cool the blue planet, which is far more important tnan just cutting carbon!

We have to get back to rebuild balance of fire versus fungi. Walter says we have five years to do it, but its not difficult.. Have to use all the tools available and that must include grazing animals, which also feed us. Its cooling the oceans that we should be focusing on. And yes to do that we need livestock for the soil!. When it comes to ethics about eating meat, I look to indigenous people, and the spiritual connection they have with the animals they depend on for survival, and the gratitude they express.

A long way from where we are, sadly. As Someone who largely falls into the Biocentrist camp and not a Vegan, I would say that all of the above comments are of little value unless you can halt carbon emissions and dramatically reduce the population i.

If the human race were able to get its act together and achieve these two aims agriculture would have to be broadly as follows. Removal of CAFOS system and supplementary feeds except bi-products of human foods , an assessment of each area of land as to its suitability livestock or crop and as the population begins to reduce, a return to mixed organic farming.

In the interim, with the removal of CAFOS there is going to need to be a greater reliance on plant protein. This is not victory for Vegans rather a sad reflection on the greed of the human race and their inability to control their populations. If you break the laws of nature you pay the price. I wonder why you guys waste so much time with those idiots. Every native comunity all over the world,native americans,samis,inuits,etc all them hunt and fish,without destroying Nature. None of them promotes animal abuse.

I wonder how those idiots would deal with it. Besides I wonder what authority vegans have to travel to other countries saying what people should eat or not. Not even in India this insanity exists,on the contrary: the ayruvetic medice does recommends you meat if you need so for your health.

So as you can ssee,they are only acultured idiotic cult members as many said here, an ethnocentric bullshit as i read somewhere. It might be a serious problem in Canada for you guys to create a page like that. I would add a economical aspect of it.

There are a lot of vegan promoters who use veganism as a form of good income. All the people on earth can fit into the state of Arizona, everyone standing in their own square yard. We are not over populated at all. People starving has more to do with political and economic inequality rather than overpopulation.

Large cities are overcrowded for sure, but there are still vast spaces unoccupied by any human. Makes one wonder who and what the rulers of earth really are since they hate humanity so much. The ignorant and uneducated look at the commercialization and mass production of food and see something wrong. They blame humanity rather than looking at the ones at the top, the mega corporations that produce food in very toxic ways yet fail to see their own complicity by participating in the system.

Those urban vegans who have never lifted a finger to produce their own food. I find them to be the useful idiots of those that wish us harm. I want to propose we fight to promote a better system, one that has built in self sufficiency and sustainability. Why not have a garden out back or mixed in with the shrubbery? Edible and sustainable landscaping?

Build houses and public spaces in harmony with the earth. Homes with thick walls, straw bale insulation, built with adobe brick or natural earth make sense. Why should power come from a company? I think it comes down to the individual to push back against these agendas and choose to live differently.

And educate others as well. Hi Lisa, I agree with you about your suggestions about sustainability, and perhaps in the future.

One positive note Drax, a big UK power station, is going green completely soon. So that at least is one small step in the positive direction.

I think they will be planting trees. I personally do think we are at risk of becoming over populated, if you compare to how many of us are now since the industrial Revelation, and as we keep going as we are, we are in trouble, things do radically need to change at some point. I have no problem with veganism, its the Gary Franciphone abolitionist approach which is the problem. Given that no one else can say the same as he can, due to copyright, and no other scholar probably want to anyway, plus most organisations involved with animals are concerned about their welfare.

If you are only concerned with welfare, and not abolishing of using animals, that, in his view, you are not vegan. So you cannot stop eating meat and dairy, and avoid use of anything to do with animal products, but donate a small amount of cash to an animal shelter, then that is fundamentally wrong, as that animal shelter is not campaigning for abolishing the use of animals.

As far as I am aware, he doesn;t affiliate himself with any of his supporters, nor does he monitor how they enforce his abolitionist rules on others. I cannot really comment on GF and who he might be as a person, as there must be some good about him as he has got as far as he has in the academic world.

I feel it has attracted, because it is a fundamentalist ideology, people who are very assertive and have a superiority complex, and anyone who can be belittled easy, and shows actual empathy and compassion get bullied away. They cannot win in their arguments, and usually it will be a minor thing, such as donating a small amount of cash to a rescue centre. Also, you went to an ivy league, so you should be smart enough to know that veg[etari]anism still involves killing a lot of animals anyway!!!

And we do know that cholesterol and heme-iron are pretty much exclusive to animal-based foods completely. But just curious — are these nutrients commonly found in animal-based foods, when the animals themselves are wild-caught as opposed to farm-raised? Actually, you can disregard my comment above. I am an ethical vegan. Yet I found your article very absorbing and interesting. However, to each his own.

Like you rightly said, every one should make their food choices with full clarity and of their own volition. I do agree, I am vegetarian, but I will not force any one to eat anything, or hate anyone for eating what they do. I hope you are a vegetarian that turns their back on all forms of Industrial Agriculture like we Ethical Omnivores do.

I am a flexitarian, I have roast dinner on a Sunday with my family. However, I knew some abolotionist vegans I feel this article was correct, but I felt that the militant, vegans are coming from the abolotionist ideology created by a Professor called Gary Franceophone.

Before this, people were allowed to call themselves vegans, if they quit dairy alongside meat. Being concerned and supporting the welfare of animals makes you a non-vegan, in the eyes of an abolitionist. Therefore you cannot be a real vegan abolitionist if you are only doing it out of love. So, the only disagreement I have with this article is implying that all vegans are part of this cult.

Gary Francophone is a professor who created this ideology. There are many criticisms about him in the vegan community which abolotionists called welfarists, denying them the right to call themselves vegans. Prof Francophone provided the rules, however, its the abolotionists online that enforce them, provide the intellectual arguments that are based around comparing murderers or rapists to vegetarians who drink milk.

Yeah I agree, it is a cult. However, the slight difference is that GF is probably not exploiting people for money or sex, as he will earn enough as a professor I guess. But in reality this cult is there to belittle and shame people, and will not accept any other scholar, or organisation concerning animals, as basically no other scholar or organisation is as fundamentalist as GF — and therefore that makes them welfarists, which is a no-no by GF.

So Veganary is immoral by this group, and they say this is like asking rapists to stop raping, and given them a personal choice to do so. Which is complete rubbish as rape is illegal, and if you get caught you go to prison. Whereas eating meat and consuming dairy is not illegal, so we can have the personal choice to choose vegan. The issue I have hear, is that young impressionable people are more likely to get involved with abolitionism, and most probably leave in a flood of tears. If I killed as many animals and destroyed as much of the environment as vegans do by way of their total reliance on Industrial monoculture I would have the decency to feel shame.

Do you as I do only eat locally, seasonally and regeneratively? This may set us up for heart disease, stroke, death, and cardiac surgery. This new research adds choline to the list of dietary culprits with the potential to increase the risk of heart disease, making eggs a double whammy—the most concentrated common source of both choline and cholesterol.

Choline, a chemical found in high concentration in animal foods, has profound effects on gene expression and is considered to be an important factor in our modern day diseases. Two hard-boiled eggs approximately grams provides mg of choline.

Two thirds of a cup of uncooked, unprocessed soybeans approximately grams delivers mg of choline. Using the Nutritiondata. Unprocessed soybeans and quinoa a whole grain are two health-promoting plant foods that are viable alternatives to eggs along with many other plant-based foods for dietary choline sources.

These plant foods have also not been shown in multiple studies to increase the risk of cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes, and cancer like eggs have.

Erin Richard and colleagues at Harvard conducted a study involving men with early stage prostate cancer. They followed them several years to find out if their diets were associated with a reappearance of cancer, such as spreading to the bone. Choline is so concentrated in cancer cells that doctors can follow choline uptake to track the spread of cancer throughout the body.

And the industry is aware of the cancer data. Call me crazy. Mother nature plants over , edible plants for us to consume, each providing everything we need but your answer is to eat the a pig, a cow, a fish or a chicken to provide everything we need to live a healthy life? Are you one of those people who believe that the earth is flat? Not only do you not have a scientific rebuttal, but also refuse to do anything but slander these responses to your quite elegantly erroneous article.

While ego is an innate part of us all, it can be quite harmful to write fictitious articles and books that many will assume to be factual. I sincerely hope you read this and have more of a response than that of a moody teenager. Take care. The ultimate source of B12 is bacteria in contaminated water. Humans would have been consuming B12 via drinking water a couple of centuries ago.

Fortunately, we now have clean water for humans but not so much for the animals that some of us choose to consume. I never trusted that animal sources of B12 were adequate since there is no way of knowing how much dirty water the animal was exposed to prior to death. I think that supplementation and periodic blood testing is a good idea for everyone regardless of their diet.

Part of the dynamic here is an appeal to authority. By the logic of the masses, that means I must be wrong. If it was really only about health effects, the discussion about the topic would include no drama, no attempts to proselytize others and generally no exceedingly emotional activation of the proponents of such a diet.

Anyway, I regard some of it as religious, insane even. Those people need to tour a couple of butcheries, maybe chop off the head of some live chicken in some farm, and cook it into a meal to clear their heads. Red meats seem OK if they come from well-fed animals grass fed cows instead of industrial-chow fed ones.

Meat, however, is certainly toxic if in some aged preparations, like sausages which contains additives like nitrites — combined with the protein in the meat they can react into nitrosamines, which definitely are carcinogenic — just eat good and fresh meat, and you will never touch this stuff. Vegans are statistically healthier, indeed, but there seems to be a heavy bias, because those who become vegan are also of socially higher class, less overweight, drink less alcohol, and do more physical exercise, for example.

Also, we see no obvious negative effects on whole populations that eat a lot fish and meat; the Japanese and French French Paradox for example grow especially old and stay fit and slim and healthy. Evolutionary, we should be most healthy for those things we are adapted to. Our ancestors were those who not only survived, but also reared children successfully. Those ancestors greatly desired sugar, but very seldom actually could acquire it; the food they really lived on was most certainly highly diverse in plant material, supplemented with food derived from animals.

Logically, we should be best adapted to the food our ancestors actually ate and functioned with well enough to succeed evolutionary, not the food they craved and we inherited those cravings but almost never actually had available. Our ancestors were largely scavengers and had to eat what they could to survive because the biggest threat to their life was starvation. Contrary to popular opinion, animal flesh and their secretions are not macronutrients that cannot be found in plants.

In fact healthier form of all macronutrients can be found in plants as they come without saturated fat and cholesterol. Also heme iron which is found in animals are carcinogenic since our body does not regulate its absorption effectively.

The healthiest diet for humans and the only sustainable diet environmental-wise is whole food plant based diet with limited use of oil and processed foods like white flour. What struck me when I saw the attractive Australian women was how bad her teeth looked.

Intelligent and attractive Australian women of her generation tend to have much better teeth. I do think there are some issues with the factory farming of animals for meat.

It is too bad that guys like Joe Salatin are not the normal but the exception. If meat in of itself is so bad, how did Lewis and Clark, and La Salle and other explorers not die of ketosis or whatever when they not recovering from dysentery or malaria?

Not like they had fresh vegetables to pick while exploring. No doubt, though, you heard about another vegan climber, one who died while attempting to climb the tallest mountain in the world.

Protein can also be used by the body for energy, but only after carbohydrate stores have been used up. Only strength training and exercise will change muscle. Athletes, even body builders, need only a little bit of extra protein to support muscle growth. Athletes can easily meet this increased need by eating more total calories eating more food. Most Americans already eat almost twice as much protein as they need for muscle development. Too much protein in the diet:.

Will be stored as increased body fat Can increase the chance for dehydration not enough fluids in the body Can lead to loss of calcium Can put an added burden on the kidneys Often, people who focus on eating extra protein may not get enough carbohydrates, which are the most important source of energy during exercise.

This post was to get more eyeballs. Not well researched like other posts. What 2 documented groups lived the longest? This is one of your main tenants — anti aging. Plant based, whole foods not processed oils and processed carbs nor animal proteins nor fats. Very active in their 80s. Using a single persons death as a title was sensationalism, not classy nor relevant to your usual usage of proper studies.

So do you think I should write things that no one wants to read? Mormons live longer than SDA anyway. Maybe you need to be reading classier sites than this one. Just keep up your good work, please. Per the linked article, she died of altitude sickness, as have many others while climbing Everest; is there any evidence that veganism makes you more susceptible to altitude sickness? Also, she had successfully climbed other challenging peaks, including Denali. Everest has killed plenty of very healthy non-vegans — I think she had proved her point well enough before trying Everest.

But I also think the balance of the evidence shows veganism is misguided, and can be harmful. Rather than wanting to be thin, I think more people are vegans because they object to the cruelty, abuse, and just plain stupidity eg antibiotics involved in the modern mass production of meat and animal products generally.

Headline is misleading: nowhere in the article, which does not have a link to the original research, does it say vegans live longer. It says more plant protein is healthier. Anyway, these are all associations, not causation. Vegans are more likely to live healthier lifestyles through less smoking, drinking, more exercise, etc. Apparently he can lift more than lbs. Digging a bit into that story reveals he switched to veganism a couple of years ago, after already having been a two-time Olympic athlete.

Meat, eggs, and cheese and other dairy products, and fish contain large amounts of complete protein and are, in my view, necessary for good health.

John McDougall fell from a standing height in his bathroom and broke several major bones, including several vertebrae in his back , his pelvis, and femur. The parents, identified as Peter S, 34, and Sandrina V, 30, first took their dying son to a homeopathic doctor, who urged them to go to a real hospital, the paper reports.

The hippies run a natural food store, and claimed they never noticed anything wrong with their tiny tot. You should really educate yourself properly before spouting BS to your readers. One more thing. Veganism bears the mark of religion.

I have observed that most vegans are keen are converting people. I believe that if vegans were serious about reducing animal cruelty, they would buy up some ranches and farms and market animal products that are cruelty free. Vanishingly few people are willing to convert to veganism, but growing numbers are willing to pay a premium price for foods that are of high quality and free of cruelty.

Most are content to be ascetics, modern day pillar-sitters who suffer for an audience, unburdened by actually effecting change in their society. By consuming low amounts of low-quality protein, vegans set themselves up for sarcopenia muscle wasting , osteoporosis, and probably senile dementia. It is produced by bacteria, but is primarily obtained through animal-based foods.

Taking vitamin B12 supplements is another option, regardless of diet.. In fact, a Tufts University study found that most Americans may have low vitamin B12 levels. There are many reasons why this might happen, but the lack of animal products is not to blame. Instead, it may have to do with your choice of food. And, it makes you feel sated.

Having trouble feeling full? Take confidence in your new understanding that you can give your body all of the nutrients it needs on a plant-based diet.

As always, consult a nutritionist before making any major changes. And then have fun! Here are some recipes to get you started. Email nonie. I like to read your articles every week and I have a question of my own. My granddaughter has come home from school with the idea that meat is bad for her and the environment.

She thinks eating vegetarian will stop global warming! She started having problems with her period. Now my daughter got a call from the school counsellor to say she is depressed and they need to see a psychiatrist.

Well, they think she needs medication. You seem sensible, so I want to ask you if you think this no-meat and no-milk diet can be causing all these health problems, and is there anything we can do other than jumping to depression medications?

A vegan diet - which is vegetarian but without dairy and eggs - is one of the most unhealthy diets in my professional opinion.